tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post194343779785106737..comments2023-08-01T11:15:10.503-04:00Comments on Scientia's Blog: Reviews And Fairness Or How To Make Intel Look GoodScientia from AMDZonehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11307174874527564058noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-17229660699865970362008-08-12T12:11:00.000-04:002008-08-12T12:11:00.000-04:00orlyI understand that you don't feel that I've pro...<B>orly</B><BR/><BR/>I understand that you don't feel that I've proven that Anandtech is biased.<BR/><BR/>I will probably revisit this topic later when I have more information and can say whether the bias is Anandtech or the benchmarks or whether the comparisons are valid. There are certainly indications of bias both in testing methods and the benchmarks themselves but perhaps not enough to skew Scientia from AMDZonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11307174874527564058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-66894165768079492442008-08-12T05:01:00.000-04:002008-08-12T05:01:00.000-04:00"Do you want me to see if I can get you unbanned?"...<I>"Do you want me to see if I can get you unbanned?"</I><BR/><BR/>What good would it do? Whatever I say there I get labeled as troll no matter what I do. Remember a few months ago when I was talking about multi-socket scaling and when I said in nearly every post that AMD clearly scales better I still got labeled as troll and got banned soon after?<BR/><BR/>Amdzone is nothing but amd fanboy camp.Ho Hohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00177815588184912351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-36810597969064364702008-08-11T23:19:00.000-04:002008-08-11T23:19:00.000-04:00orly "So, how about that review trend article?"I d...<B>orly</B> <BR/><BR/><I>"So, how about that review trend article?"</I><BR/><BR/>I didn't write a second article because I added several items on to this article. <BR/><BR/>And, stop trying to hijack an unrelated thread.Scientia from AMDZonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11307174874527564058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-82937031755741288052008-08-11T12:34:00.000-04:002008-08-11T12:34:00.000-04:00ho hoYou and other Intel fans keep claiming that I...<B>ho ho</B><BR/><BR/>You and other Intel fans keep claiming that I'm some type of petty tyrant. However, I had nothing to do with your permanent ban on AMDZone; that was Ghost, the site Administrator.<BR/><BR/>Juliez and MatrixBaron were clearly trolling and their bans were an improvement but I'm not sure you are in the same category. Do you want me to see if I can get you unbanned?Scientia from AMDZonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11307174874527564058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-73013801188293991382008-08-06T19:01:00.000-04:002008-08-06T19:01:00.000-04:00Something to read about on a hot summer:http://www...Something to read about on a hot summer:<BR/>http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/252504-10-deneb-previewedUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00940671296974584415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-60681647039072443732008-08-01T08:06:00.000-04:002008-08-01T08:06:00.000-04:00http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=47...http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=471<BR/>about this.. still no benchmarks and i was looking forward to read abot HT and CPU speed above 2.5GHZ.<BR/>I was under the impresion that phenom is very slow compared to core 2 duo <BR/>or core 2 quad, but looking at the comparison on toms hardware pages i must say in things that i work with (3d studio, maya ) it is formidable opponent Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00940671296974584415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-9711861352155412932008-07-31T11:21:00.000-04:002008-07-31T11:21:00.000-04:00You might be interested in the tests that Ars Tech...You might be interested in the tests that Ars Technica did with Nano, Atom and Turion. They showed that FutureMark has seemngly three code paths for memory tests (at least). One runs when an Intel CPUID is detected, another runs when an AMD CPUID is detcted and a third runs when it's neither (in the case of Nano) When they switch the Nano CPUID for AMD (Via doesn't lock it) it improves 10%. It Christian H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16847810167041864292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-26585024839899966822008-07-22T14:55:00.000-04:002008-07-22T14:55:00.000-04:00ho hoInstead of quoting a snippet from ExtremeTech...<B>ho ho</B><BR/><BR/>Instead of quoting a snippet from ExtremeTech why didn't you go to the original source? <A HREF="http://www.pcisig.com/news_room/faqs/pcie3.0_faq/" REL="nofollow">PCI-SIG PCIe3.0 FAQ</A>:<BR/><BR/><I>These studies showed, for instance, that power increased by a quadratic factor at 10GT/s.</I><BR/><BR/>This easily refutes your attempts to claim that 10GT with 8/10 encoding Scientia from AMDZonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11307174874527564058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-61727571484331939232008-07-21T11:56:00.000-04:002008-07-21T11:56:00.000-04:00This story should be interesting to follow:http://...This story should be interesting to follow:<BR/><BR/>http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=471<BR/><BR/>litle off topic, but it's about new SB700 south bridge on AMD fx790.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00940671296974584415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-7090398279776689862008-07-21T09:20:00.000-04:002008-07-21T09:20:00.000-04:00Well it seems H.R. is leaving AMD. I think he righ...Well it seems H.R. is leaving AMD. I think he rightfully should. The new CEO will be Dirk Meyer, a technology oriented CEO, not Marketing/Brand oriented like Hector Ruiz was. I always felt that AMD is and should be a technology company, and not a manufacturing company. <BR/><BR/>The recent history showed that in IT brands are the least important of almost all markets, and the technology in itselfPop Catalin Severhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10767225265147312372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-25765062199339846882008-07-19T15:22:00.000-04:002008-07-19T15:22:00.000-04:00ho hoPCIe 1.0 and 2.0 use 8/10 encoding. This make...<B>ho ho</B><BR/><BR/>PCIe 1.0 and 2.0 use 8/10 encoding. This makes the actual data transmission bit speed 20% less than the transfer speed.<BR/><BR/>PCIe 1.0 - 2.5 GT/sec; 2 Gb/sec data<BR/>PCIe 2.0 - 5 GT/sec; 4 Gb/sec data<BR/><BR/>In order to get 8 Mb/sec data with PCIe 3.0 using the existing scheme Intel would have needed 10GT/sec. However, they couldn't get that much speed so the removed Scientia from AMDZonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11307174874527564058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-25596507294703564042008-07-18T19:47:00.000-04:002008-07-18T19:47:00.000-04:00orly"wont post this but you'll still read it at th...<B> orly</B><BR/><BR/><I>"wont post this but you'll still read it at the very least."</I><BR/><BR/>No, I probably won't quote it or respond to it.<BR/><BR/><I>"I find it rather hilarious that you write an article (http://scientiasblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/45nm-interesting-convergence-in-design.html about talking about the die sizes and caches of nehalem and shanghai"</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, that was Scientia from AMDZonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11307174874527564058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-49020446685081434692008-07-17T18:25:00.000-04:002008-07-17T18:25:00.000-04:00Dirk is new AMD's CEO. AT LAST!!!Dirk is new AMD's CEO. AT LAST!!!gdp77https://www.blogger.com/profile/09696219394282972253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-7713379267945629212008-07-15T18:42:00.000-04:002008-07-15T18:42:00.000-04:00MorlyYes, after your correction I took out the men...<B>Morly</B><BR/><BR/>Yes, after your correction I took out the mention of die size in the article. Places like <A HREF="http://techreport.com/discussions.x/14240" REL="nofollow">TechReport</A> were saying that Nehalem's die would be 20-30% larger. And, I had forgotten about <A HREF="http://aceshardware.freeforums.org/finally-an-image-of-shanghai-t405-15.html" REL="nofollow">Hans De Vries die Scientia from AMDZonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11307174874527564058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-7683794520411372702008-07-15T18:34:00.000-04:002008-07-15T18:34:00.000-04:00When you take out the "Reviews are typically done ...When you take out the "Reviews are typically done only on high end Intel quad cores", the context of my post is lost.enumaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03279137923346047097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-12297154380277840882008-07-15T17:43:00.000-04:002008-07-15T17:43:00.000-04:00enumae"And prior to the release of Conroe reviews ...<B>enumae</B><BR/><BR/><I>"And prior to the release of Conroe reviews were done on AMD's best platform... Go look at Anandtech and Sharky Extreme, as did many others."</I><BR/><BR/>That is quite true but it is also quite irrelevant. The focus today has shifted to platforms rather than just CPU's. Back when ATI was a separate company there was a more diverse mix of systems and the only distinct Scientia from AMDZonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11307174874527564058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-52405987543427370862008-07-15T17:15:00.000-04:002008-07-15T17:15:00.000-04:00Décío Luiz Gazzoni Filho"That's why any serious ad...<B>Décío Luiz Gazzoni Filho</B><BR/><BR/><I>"That's why any serious ad-supported business imposes a strict separation between the advertising and the journalistic departments."</I><BR/><BR/>I remember when they banned smoking in the student union at ISU. One student wrote and editorial where he said that there was no reason to ban smoking because the smoking areas were "well separated" from the Scientia from AMDZonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11307174874527564058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-5099369601224206792008-07-15T11:42:00.000-04:002008-07-15T11:42:00.000-04:00Of course the benchmarks will change. I always hat...Of course the benchmarks will change. I always hated it when only one CPU was used to test a GPU. Anand uses a 3.2GHz Penryn which probably .5% of users actually have, so no users can see how new GPUs will behave with their CPUs.<BR/><BR/>I recently came across a WPrime, which uses both cores to calculate Pi. AMD is MUCH closer there.<BR/><BR/>Another thing I see is that AMD chips are tested on Christian H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16847810167041864292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-3476962929847870992008-07-15T08:44:00.000-04:002008-07-15T08:44:00.000-04:00That's why any serious ad-supported business impos...That's why any serious ad-supported business imposes a strict separation between the advertising and the journalistic departments. Their readership makes or breaks them (that's what the advertisers are buying, eyes to look at their ads), and if you lie to your readers, you'll soon find yourself in the gutter.<BR/><BR/>Now if you're in the hardware business, you'll attract advertisers in the Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03216884085925141483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-79925053810279898732008-07-15T06:56:00.000-04:002008-07-15T06:56:00.000-04:00Thanks for the articles Sci, always a good read. I...Thanks for the articles Sci, always a good read. It's nice to see Intel's and AMD's CPU architectures converging. It will make it infinitely harder to perform benchmarketing.<BR/><BR/>Pedantic correction.. It's Intel QuickPath, not QuickPort (towards the end of your article). :)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07919334145254284360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-25602796167206424542008-07-14T23:43:00.000-04:002008-07-14T23:43:00.000-04:00Décío Luiz Gazzoni Filho"ever heard of advertising...<B>Décío Luiz Gazzoni Filho</B><BR/><BR/><I>"ever heard of advertising? You seriously think Anandtech links to an `Intel Resource Center' out of the kindness of their hearts?"</I><BR/><BR/>You are actually making a case against Anandtech. If they depend on advertizing from Intel then they aren't likely to want to upset Intel with a bad review.Scientia from AMDZonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11307174874527564058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32351755.post-74719767363071743822008-07-14T23:41:00.000-04:002008-07-14T23:41:00.000-04:00Amdposer"Xbitlabs has a nice clickable POWERED BY ...<B>Amdposer</B><BR/><BR/><I>"Xbitlabs has a nice clickable POWERED BY AMD OPTERON poster on their website."</I><BR/><BR/>True and you could make this argument if they only used AMD equipment. But notice what platform they use to test graphics cards.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/ati-radeon-hd4800-games_2.html#sect0" REL="nofollow">Testbed</A><BR/><BR/>Intel CoreScientia from AMDZonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11307174874527564058noreply@blogger.com